Hello Dave,
For some reason the following posting did not arrive at the crash
mailing list:
Any idea why?
Michael
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 10:27:00 +0200
Petr Tesarik <ptesarik(a)suse.cz> wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 03:18:55 +0000
Pete Delaney <pdelaney(a)silver-peak.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Six years ago Dave and I were discussing using gdb on KDUMP files:
>[...]
>
> Anyone know what's going on?
Yes, sure. GDB works very differently from crash. There main conceptual
difference is that GDB only handles with VIRTUAL addresses, while the
crash utility first translates everything to PHYSICAL addresses.
Consequently, GDB ignores the PhysAddr field in ELF program headers,
and crash ignores the VirtAddr field.
I have looked at some of my ELF dump files, and it seems to me that
VirtAddr is not filled correctly, except for kernel text and static
data (address range 0xffffffff80000000-0xffffffff9fffffff). Your linked
list is most likely allocated in the direct mapping
(0xffff880000000000-0xffffc7ffffffffff). However, I found out that the
virtual addresses for the direct mapping segments are wrong, e.g. my
dump file specifies it at 0xffff810000000000 (hypervisor area). This is
most likely a bug in the kernel code that implements /proc/vmcore.
But that's beside the point. Why? The Linux kernel maps many physical
pages more than once into the virtual address space. It would be waste
of space if you saved it multiple times (for each virtual address that
maps to it). The crash utility can translate each virtual address to
the physical address and map it onto ELF segments using PhysAddr.
Incidentally, the PhysAddr fields are correct in my dump files...
I'm glad you're interested in using GDB to read kernel dump files,
especially if you're willing to make it work for real. I have proposed
more than once that the crash utility be re-implemented in pure gdb.
Last time I looked (approx. 1.5 years ago) the main missing pieces were:
1. Use of physical addresses (described above)
2. Support for multiple virtual address spaces (for different process
contexts)
3. Ability to read compressed kdump files
4. Ability to use 64-bit files on 32-bit platforms (to handle PAE)
HTH,
Petr Tesarik
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